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    Brandon Kilgore
    Daily Reporter

    Issue date: 11/4/05 Section: NEWS
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    Former Ku Klux Klan leader Johnny Lee Clary speaks to Syl Flores' diversity in human services class about anti-racism Thursday in the General Academic Building.
    Media Credit: Emily Hughes / NT Daily
    Former Ku Klux Klan leader Johnny Lee Clary speaks to Syl Flores' diversity in human services class about anti-racism Thursday in the General Academic Building.
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    When Johnny Lee Clary was imperial wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, he never guessed he would one day devote his life to spreading a message of tolerance.

    His latest engagement took place Thursday afternoon in General Academics Building, room 104, with more than 150 students in attendance.

    Clary grew up with a family in an Oklahoma community that condoned racism, and he was taught to hate from an early age. He told the audience about the first time he saw a black person: "That's a nigger," his dad told him.

    "You have to understand hatred," Clary said. "Hatred is a learned response. You're not born with it. Someone has to teach you hate."

    At age of 11, in 1971, Clary found himself dispossessed from his family and living in Los Angeles. By the age of 14, he began "giving up on life" but found refuge and a sense of family in the KKK.

    "There's always misguided individuals out there looking for something to hold on to," he said.

    For the next 16 years of his life, Clary devoted all his time and resources to the KKK. In 1980, he became grand dragon of the KKK's Oklahoma chapter. By 1989, after gaining notoriety through his wrestling career and appearing on talk shows such as Oprah, Clary became imperial wizard of the KKK, the highest position in the organization.

    "I used fear to recruit other people into the Klan," Clary said. "That's what all these white power and black power groups do today. They use fear."

    Within a year after becoming imperial wizard, he became disillusioned with his way of life and quit the KKK, largely due to a black preacher named Wade Watts, who stubbornly responded with love and tolerance to Clary's hate.

    "I had never taken the time to sit down and get to know a black person," Clary said.

    His vivid description of his transformation incited many laughs and even a few teary eyes from the crowd.

    Burlyce Logan, 68-year-old Denton freshman, is going back to school decades after becoming one of the first black students at NT in 1966. He remembers a time when the KKK had an open presence in Denton.

    "I remember crosses being burned here in Denton," she said. "It was like deja vu to listen to what [Clary] talked about- I admire him. I think he's trying to make a difference."

    Wayne Newsome, Dallas senior who is also black, doubted some aspects of Clary's talk but is still proud of him.

    "From listening to him, it kind of opened my mind a little bit," he said.

    In addition telling his life story and pointing out the tactics racist groups use, Clary walked the audience through an article he wrote for his Web site, http://www.xkkk.org, exposing members of the National Socialist Movement for hypocrisy, violent crimes and drug crimes.

    "I didn't come here today just to talk," Clary said. "I came here today with some solutions to fighting racism."

    He wants anti-racists to unite and create networks, contact local and national politicians, educate themselves and others, be willing to talk about difficult issues and "teach love" to young people, not hate.

    "If you don't do something, who is going to?" Clary said. "You can ignore it, or you can decide to do something about it."

    Clary now speaks full-time, traveling internationally to share his personal experiences. He has gathered a small group of former racists, known as Operation Colorblind, that he hopes will begin speaking publicly as well.

    His next stop will be in Austin on Saturday. He will join counter-demonstrators against the KKK, who will be marching in support of the same-sex marriage amendment, Proposition 2.


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    anonymous877

    anonymous877

    posted 11/04/05 @ 4:12 PM CST

    I Johnny Lee Clary, in reference to the above article, which states that I will be joining those in support of the same sex marriage bill, would like to clarify that I am NOT in support of same sex marriages! I do NOT support homosexuality in any shape or form! It is a sin according to God's word! I will NOT be joining the people who are in support of the same sex marriage bill! I am against the KKK but I am also against any effort to legalize something that the BIBLE says is a sin! My attraction to Austin during the KKK rally is not to okay homosexuality but instead to stand up for God's word and stand against the KKK!

    Johnny Lee Clary, Motivational Speaker
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    clary@johnnyleeclary. (Continued…)

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    anonymous877

    anonymous877

    posted 11/05/05 @ 1:55 PM CST

    You realize John Lee Clary is part of Fred Phelps' GodHatesFags.com?

    Bill White
    dhyphen@yahoo.com

    anonymous877

    anonymous877

    posted 11/06/05 @ 10:01 PM CST

    So, Mr. Clary is against the hate of the KKK, is against the amendment, but is also against gay marriage?

    The amendment is to prohibit gay marriage, not support it. (Continued…)

    anonymous877

    anonymous877

    posted 11/07/05 @ 2:21 AM CST

    No, I am NOT a part of www.godhatesfags.com. Bill White is a liar.He is risking a lawsuit by slandering me. He is also a member of the Nazi Party, the NSM, which says it all. (Continued…)

    amomymous35

    posted 1/08/08 @ 5:32 PM CST

    The kkk is old. why dont they all give up? they arent going anywere. is pintless and fucing stupid for that manor.

    UNT Student

    posted 1/16/08 @ 1:08 AM CST

    So according to Mr Clary, it's ok to hate some people....but not others?

    I wonder if Matthew Shepard knows anything about that?

    ???

    posted 3/03/08 @ 1:03 PM CST

    The kkk are stupid and are wasting their lives on bullying black people.
    i am not black. The ku klux klan are SINNERS and think that they will go to heaven, which they wont. (Continued…)

    Patrick Doran

    posted 3/24/08 @ 8:43 PM CST

    John Lee Clary is an idiot. How dare he preach "tolerance" when he's still clearly a fascist. He is the most hypocritical public figure I have ever come across on the net. (Continued…)

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    Jason Dodd

    posted 7/05/08 @ 4:50 AM CST

    fuck john lee clary he is an idiot im not gay but i still say gay people shud get married if someones in love they have the right 2 get married but wat really pisses me off is he talks shit about marilyn manson i am obsesed with mm he says manson caused columbine but hello its music. (Continued…)

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    funniguy

    posted 8/26/08 @ 2:12 AM CST

    the kkk is just some dumb ass ignorat people who spends all the time hating people who gives a shit about what they say, they live on the past...thats why they dont have a job because they hate for no reason. (Continued…)

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